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Oil filter o-rings

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:16 pm
by skull-candy18
I'm just about to service my bike and I'm missing the small filter cover o-ring. I also can't find it anywhere with the part number on here (except USA)
Can I change the filter without replacing the small o-ring ?

Re: Oil filter o-rings

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:47 am
by M.V.
The one on the filter itself? I imagine you should be able to re-use the old one, make sure you replace it next time though, they're under a bit of pressure IIRC.

Re: Oil filter o-rings

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:25 am
by skull-candy18
The little ring that goes on the housing. Its the arrow on bottom right of this picture and goes on the metal spacer. I ordered all my stuff from wemoto and I presumed the small o-ring would have come with the large o-ring. It seems to be quite hard to buy on its own and my nearest Yamaha dealer is quiet far away. I though I could just re-use it but my Haynes manual says to replace.
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Re: Oil filter o-rings

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:17 am
by M.V.
Does the Haynes say to replace it every filter change? I've never replaced one yet... :shock:

Re: Oil filter o-rings

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:39 am
by cobbadiggabuddyblooo
Same here, I've done around 20 oil changes and I've never replaced it.

Re: Oil filter o-rings

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:28 am
by Tarwetijger
M.V. wrote:Does the Haynes say to replace it every filter change? I've never replaced one yet... :shock:
Yeah, but they say that with every single O-ring. :|
I replace them sometimes, not always.

KEDO item 91629 is handy.
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http://www.kedo.com/ssl/php/art_detail. ... c3a0ba74b2

Re: Oil filter o-rings

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:22 pm
by skull-candy18
Thanks, hopefully it will be fine this time. I've seen the kits but I've already purchased the filter and large seal/crush washers so didn't wan't to have to buy it all again.

I'll be doing it shortly so hopefully no problems arise :)

Re: Oil filter o-rings

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:32 pm
by Stu99
M.V. wrote:Does the Haynes say to replace it every filter change? I've never replaced one yet... :shock:
Yes it does. But then again if you followed Haynes pre ride inspection every ride you'd get to work after lunch every day.
:lol: :P :lol:

Re: Oil filter o-rings

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:41 pm
by skull-candy18
Stu99 wrote:
M.V. wrote:Does the Haynes say to replace it every filter change? I've never replaced one yet... :shock:
Yes it does. But then again if you followed Haynes pre ride inspection every ride you'd get to work after lunch every day.
:lol: :P :lol:

This is very true.

Well I serviced it and all went to plan apart from not having a small crush washer and losing the keys to my shed for my locktite.

Re: Oil filter o-rings

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:51 pm
by fung
For the sake of a few dollars/pounds/euros i always prefer to replace all washers and o rings.
Both the left side drain plug and the right side long filter bolt have crush washers.
The large and small o rings are cheap enough and they get a squash, get oily/greasy and get hot, so why not replace them at each change :-)

Re: Oil filter o-rings

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:41 am
by Con Rod
fung wrote:....so why not replace them at each change :-)

yep pure laziness on my part. The large o-ring I don't have handy and never think to get it, same with the crush washers. I have a stack of the smaller o-rings so no reason for me not to change them other than just laziness.

And surprise surprise I commonly get oil weeping from the filter cover

Re: Oil filter o-rings

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:03 am
by M.V.
Stu99 wrote:Yes it does. But then again if you followed Haynes pre ride inspection every ride you'd get to work after lunch every day.
:lol: :P :lol:
No wonder they call it "The book of lies"

Still given that the rear wheel came off my pushbike the other day, after I had ridden to & from work, maybe a pre-ride inspection isn't such a bad idea :P

Re: Oil filter o-rings

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:14 am
by Stu99
M.V. wrote:
Stu99 wrote:Yes it does. But then again if you followed Haynes pre ride inspection every ride you'd get to work after lunch every day.
:lol: :P :lol:
No wonder they call it "The book of lies"

Still given that the rear wheel came off my pushbike the other day, after I had ridden to & from work, maybe a pre-ride inspection isn't such a bad idea :P
"The book of lies" :sign5:
But you know I always change all o-rings and washers with every change. OCD old me.
No doubt it's possible to get away without changing them every time but as fung pointed out, for a few bucks peace of mind is cheap.