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Another tyre thread, cost.

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:28 am
by Killerwhale
How much does the tyres cost where you buy??
In Sweden it´s quite expensive not only because of the 25% VAT.... :roll:

Just bought my second set of qualifiers from this German company wich i think has nice prices, whatcha reckon??

Your order:

Pos. Artikel Pris (€) Antal Summa (€)
1 DUNLOP / 170/60 ZR 17 M/C TL 72W SPORTMAX QUALIFIER 114.29 1 114.29
2 DUNLOP / 120/70 ZR 17 M/C TL 58W SPORTMAX QUALIFIER F 75.63 1 75.63
Zwischensumme: 189.92 Euro
+ Moms: 36.08 Euro
Shipping: 25.00 Euro
General total: 251.00 Euro

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:54 am
by nukes
BOUGHT A NEW SET OF QUALIFIERS COUPLA WEEKS AGO $480 AUS FOR THE PAIR. THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY FAIR :D
120/70 FRONT
160 REAR

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:57 am
by Killerwhale
nukes wrote:BOUGHT A NEW SET OF QUALIFIERS COUPLA WEEKS AGO $480 AUS FOR THE PAIR. THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY FAIR :D
120/70 FRONT
160 REAR
307€ according to online currency converter. Way cheaper than in Sweden!

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:54 am
by Sanoj
I payed about 315 Euro for a Michelin Pilot Power 120/70 front and a Michelin Pilot Road 2ct 180 rear tyre.
This was incl. mounting on the bike.

// Jonas

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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:07 am
by Killerwhale
Sanoj wrote:I payed about 315 Euro for a Michelin Pilot Power 120/70 front and a Michelin Pilot Road 2ct 180 rear tyre.
This was incl. mounting on the bike.

// Jonas

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For Sweden that´s incredible cheap!

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:20 am
by dirty trix
Sportmax > Michelin Pilot Power Sport?

I have pilot power road on back but want more front grip, without compromising to a near race compound and profile.

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:13 am
by dfh
dirty trix wrote:Sportmax > Michelin Pilot Power Sport?

I have pilot power road on back but want more front grip, without compromising to a near race compound and profile.
Hi Dirty TRX

I am using the new Michelin Pilot Road 2 with the dual compound front and rear... a big step forward from the original Pilot Roads, a tyre I was reasonably happy with.

I have in the past mixed sport fronts with sport-touring rear tyres, a habit I picked up in pommy-land. It sort of worked OK in that environment with temps 0 to 15deg C for most of the year. Over here in OZ the temps are in the 15 to 40 deg C range so getting enough heat into the tyre to get it to work properly is not an issue.

In fact wear becomes a heat issue with the sport front tyre in hotter climates. The last sport front I had fitted was a Metzler Z1 sporttec with a Z6 roadtec rear. The rear lasted me almost 6000km, the front 4500km. But as you know the way a front wears has a big effect on steering feel so by the time it had reached 2500km the tyre had worn badly enough to feel quite odd. I find with matched sport-touring pairs by the time the rear has worn out ( 8500km with the pilot road rear) the front is only just beginning to feel "off", and as I change tyres as a pair I avoid riding on a stuffed but totally legal front.

But the bottom line is that the tyres are designed to work in pairs, so a sport-touring front is not grip deficient in comparison to its rear sibling.
So if you have no issues with the grip of the rear Pilot Road, then the front will be more than sufficient.

The original Pilot Road was a slow steering bugger however and I will assume that is what you also have fitted to the front of your bike. The new Pilot Road 2 front is a much quicker steering, sporty feeling tyre and after thrashing the Road 2's around the Adelaide Hills for 1500km I can report that grip is not an issue with these tyres.

Hope this helps

DFH

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:56 am
by burty
It's been a while since I bought any tyres, but fronts normally come in something around the £110 mark fitted and Rears £140 ish IIRC.

I never understand the desire to mix different tyres - sport front, sport touring rear etc. But I know a lot of people swear by it. But many sport tyres need it to be a bit warm for them to work well, whereas sport touring tyres can often work better when it's colder. So if it's cold, you can end up with less grip on the front, which is probably the opposite to what you hope to achieve. I don't believe that many manufacturers actually recommend that approach. But what to they know eh?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:12 pm
by youngy
Burty is spot on.

Manufacturers use different compounds in their paired tyres as they know something about motorcycles - like you want a slightly softer front.

There is no point in 020 rear, 010 front etc as those tyres have different profiles and using them together will detract fom the handling.

Stick with a "pair". It's how they're designed to work, by the people that know about tyres.