Import front master cylinder questions

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Import front master cylinder questions

Post by Kayla » Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:23 am

I did a search but couldn't find anything relating to import TRXs, so I apologise if this has been asked before.

I have a nice white on red Japanese import. The front calipers are Brembo 4 pots and the master cylinder is Nissin. I'm guessing this is the standard set up for J-spec bikes, from what I've found.

What size bore is the Nissin master cylinder please? Is it 5/8" like the official bikes? And are there any levers available that reduce the span from the bar to the lever? I'm considering trying a 15mm Brembo master cylinder from a 748 (if I can find one) to try and give more 'feel'. The set-up on the bike seems a little wooden to me, probably not helped by the stretch to the lever.
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Re: Import front master cylinder questions

Post by youngy » Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:33 am

5/8" but yours could be non-standard. the bore is marked on the back of the cylinder.

you could fit an R6 lever, this has a different span adjustment to the TRX lever.

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Re: Import front master cylinder questions

Post by slow codger » Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:03 pm

:D Just looked at mine, on the back you should have 5^ (is a triangle after the 5) 5/8. Have you got braided hose ?

I like my Brembo's they work well with 2 fingers, but it also depends what your used to.

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Re: Import front master cylinder questions

Post by ekoja » Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:28 pm

Hi Kayla.
A little late in replying to this (I been busy) :^o but I have the same bike as you White and Red Japanese Import.
I had problems with my front brakes in that they had very little feel, heres how I fixed mine.
Push the brake lever away from the bar, were the lever makes contact with the master cyclinder, put a touch of oil or grease on it, that solved that problem.

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Re: Import front master cylinder questions

Post by idl1975 » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:08 am

Kayla wrote:I did a search but couldn't find anything relating to import TRXs, so I apologise if this has been asked before.

I have a nice white on red Japanese import. The front calipers are Brembo 4 pots and the master cylinder is Nissin. I'm guessing this is the standard set up for J-spec bikes, from what I've found.

What size bore is the Nissin master cylinder please? Is it 5/8" like the official bikes? And are there any levers available that reduce the span from the bar to the lever? I'm considering trying a 15mm Brembo master cylinder from a 748 (if I can find one) to try and give more 'feel'. The set-up on the bike seems a little wooden to me, probably not helped by the stretch to the lever.
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Can't be of much use directly as I don't have a JDM bike, but FYI the later bikes also have Nissin master cylinders. I guess Sumitomo don't do their own MCs.

Assuming your import has an adjustable lever, I would definitely recommend setting the span to minimum, fitting braided hoses and a thorough bleeding. That should keep the lever firm even on the smaller lever span setting. Just seems a little more reliable as a solution than a 748 MC.

If you find it's wooden, it might be just as cheap to fit blue spot calipers from a YZF600, R6 or R1 along with the YZF master cylinder (like everyone and his dog on here). Total cost about £100 via e-bay. The smaller internal diameter of the YZF MC gives lots of feel, as long as you keep the calipers and discs clean, and the blue spots have tons of power.
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Re: Import front master cylinder questions

Post by Kayla » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:26 pm

Thank you all for your replies. I'm kind of reluctant to replace the Brembos as they look so nice and they do do a good job of stopping the bike, but the lever just feels wooden. I reckon a 15mm Brembo m/c would work better than the 5/8 (15.8mm) Nissin, giving more travel and feel. I had an SZR with twin 40mm Brembos and a 15mm m/c and they were incredible.

I guess I'm just running into a few teething troubles that anyone goes through when they get a bike that's new to them.
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Re: Import front master cylinder questions

Post by idl1975 » Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:56 am

Kayla wrote:Thank you all for your replies. I'm kind of reluctant to replace the Brembos as they look so nice and they do do a good job of stopping the bike, but the lever just feels wooden. I reckon a 15mm Brembo m/c would work better than the 5/8 (15.8mm) Nissin, giving more travel and feel. I had an SZR with twin 40mm Brembos and a 15mm m/c and they were incredible.

I guess I'm just running into a few teething troubles that anyone goes through when they get a bike that's new to them.
Ah, the SZR, the OTHER underrated mid-90s Yamaha. :lol: A potentially great £500 track bike, especially if one has a spare CR500 motor lying around. :shock:

*thinks* I bet the drive would be on the wrong side *thinks*
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Re: Import front master cylinder questions

Post by Kayla » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:52 pm

idl1975 wrote:
Kayla wrote:Thank you all for your replies. I'm kind of reluctant to replace the Brembos as they look so nice and they do do a good job of stopping the bike, but the lever just feels wooden. I reckon a 15mm Brembo m/c would work better than the 5/8 (15.8mm) Nissin, giving more travel and feel. I had an SZR with twin 40mm Brembos and a 15mm m/c and they were incredible.

I guess I'm just running into a few teething troubles that anyone goes through when they get a bike that's new to them.
Ah, the SZR, the OTHER underrated mid-90s Yamaha. :lol: A potentially great £500 track bike, especially if one has a spare CR500 motor lying around. :shock:

*thinks* I bet the drive would be on the wrong side *thinks*
Nope, both bikes have the drive on the left side :D

The good thing with the SZR is the fact you can go from 170kg or so wet, down to about 145-ish easily and without spending lots of money. I'd love another one. First bike I got my knee down on :D and I wish I hadn't sold it #-o
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Re: Import front master cylinder questions

Post by slow codger » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:58 pm

:D But then would you have bought the TRX?

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Re: Import front master cylinder questions

Post by Kayla » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:31 pm

slow codger wrote::D But then would you have bought the TRX?

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Eventually, probably, maybe. I'd definitely have wanted something with a bit more oomph, that's for certain.
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Re: Import front master cylinder questions

Post by slow codger » Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:30 am

:D Agreed on that, I had an SRX600 race tuned, great on twisty B roads, crap on any straight. If you want something like that try a proper supermotard.

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Re: Import front master cylinder questions

Post by youngy » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:00 pm

i found that greasing the lever pivot helped no end with brake feel.

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Re: Import front master cylinder questions

Post by haggisbash » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:23 am

I tried lubricating the pivot but was still not happy with the feel - still felt wooden, (I have Nissin MC and Brembo calipers with braided lines) so I fitted a Nissin radial MC from a 05 Gixxer. Much better feel and stops very nicely :D

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Re: Import front master cylinder questions

Post by phuk72 » Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:46 am

R1 or R6 mc is the cheapest and most widely available upgrade to 15mm (that's what I've got and it makes a world of difference)
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Re: Import front master cylinder questions

Post by Kayla » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:49 pm

phuk72 wrote:R1 or R6 mc is the cheapest and most widely available upgrade to 15mm (that's what I've got and it makes a world of difference)
Is that using the standard calipers or blue/gold/silver spots?
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