MAB Power vs. Akra 2-1

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Re: MAB Power vs. Akra 2-1

Post by dandywarhol » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:57 am

Why is one cyl leaner than ther other - same carbs/jets/ports etc................?
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Re: MAB Power vs. Akra 2-1

Post by phuk72 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:46 am

dandywarhol wrote:Why is one cyl leaner than ther other - same carbs/jets/ports etc................?
certainly one cylinder runs hotter tha the other which could impact fuelling. I know Max used to run a larger jet on one side
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Re: MAB Power vs. Akra 2-1

Post by dandywarhol » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:25 am

But why is one running hotter?
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Re: MAB Power vs. Akra 2-1

Post by cobbadiggabuddyblooo » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:37 am

:idea: possibleby because of the uneven firing pattern(270degree crank as such not 180 ) for an egermicated juess. :lol: Come on guys ...How close was I :?: :?:
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Re: MAB Power vs. Akra 2-1

Post by HansJ » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:45 pm

Or has it to do with coolant entry/exit point?
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Re: MAB Power vs. Akra 2-1

Post by dandywarhol » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:00 pm

I can’t see how the uneven firing order would cause one to run hotter, even though the firing is close coupled i.e. 90 deg. apart, then a wait of 270 deg. before the next closely coupled “bangs”.
The “bangs” will cause heat transfer across to either cylinder. There will be a heat, heat..cool…………………heat, heat..cool………………………. etc., there shouldn’t be a difference in temperature between the cylinders if all the fueling/ignition/compression pressures are similar.
1996 TRX 850, blue, Ohlins 46HRCLS, Race Tech Gold Valves, 0.90 springs, Venom pipes, R6 brakes............
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Re: MAB Power vs. Akra 2-1

Post by Kayla » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:55 pm

dandywarhol wrote:I can’t see how the uneven firing order would cause one to run hotter, even though the firing is close coupled i.e. 90 deg. apart, then a wait of 270 deg. before the next closely coupled “bangs”.
The “bangs” will cause heat transfer across to either cylinder. There will be a heat, heat..cool…………………heat, heat..cool………………………. etc., there shouldn’t be a difference in temperature between the cylinders if all the fueling/ignition/compression pressures are similar.
Aren't the bangs 270 degrees apart, and then a wait of 450 degrees until the next bang? It's a 4 stroke, not a 2 ;)
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Re: MAB Power vs. Akra 2-1

Post by dandywarhol » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:47 pm

:oops:
still the same heat principle though eh?
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Re: MAB Power vs. Akra 2-1

Post by phuk72 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:07 pm

dandywarhol wrote:But why is one running hotter?
it's to do with the gubbins on the side of one of the cylinders which affects the cooling of that cylinder.

I've got a thermal imaging shot of the bike running which clearly shows one cylinder running hotter than the other (somewhere!!)
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Re: MAB Power vs. Akra 2-1

Post by HansJ » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:47 pm

"gubbins"?

Wtf is that? Explanation needed for stupid Swede...
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Re: MAB Power vs. Akra 2-1

Post by dandywarhol » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:35 pm

What Gubbins (mechanical doofers Hans :wink: ) Phuk and which side?
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Re: MAB Power vs. Akra 2-1

Post by phuk72 » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:50 am

dandywarhol wrote:What Gubbins (mechanical doofers Hans :wink: ) Phuk and which side?
in simple terms number 2 cylinder has cam chain tunnel (more metal - less cooling area) around it

check your plugs - one should be lighetr than the other which is a sign of hotter running
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Re: MAB Power vs. Akra 2-1

Post by cobbadiggabuddyblooo » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:05 am

Yer funny that ..I noticed i sweat more on the left hand side than the right after having my hip replacement...More metal on that side...All makes sense now...Thnaks phuk :lol: :lol: :lol:
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