Sodding Brakes...

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Sodding Brakes...

Post by Dee » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:11 pm

OK, so I overhauled the front master cylinder and fitted the braided stainless hoses about 3 weeks ago. All was OK, until Friday, when the brakes just didn't seem to want to work very well. When I squeezed the lever, it felt like a combination of sponginess and sticky pistons within the calipers.

So after taking one of the calipers off yesterday, it's pretty apparent that the seals have gone. The pistons themselves look OK, fortunately.

I now have 2 options open to me:

1. I buy new seals, split the calipers and fit them. Having priced the seals up, it's going to cost about £80 in all for geniune Yamaha (ouch).

2. There's a set of blue spots of ebay which I'm quite tempted by, providing they're in good nick. I've PM'd the seller asking about the condition, but I'd quite like your knowledgable opinions on these too, if you don't mind. Do these look OK to you guys, or do they look a bit rough and should I leave well alone? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Yamaha-R1-Front-B ... dZViewItem

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Post by Doyle171 » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:58 pm

I would definetly save the cash for some Blue spots.

They look okay to me, but you can't see the really important bits, ask the seller to email you some other pics of the seals and pistons. They are from a 1999 bike so there never gonna be perfect. :wink:
Shake & Bake!

Dee

Post by Dee » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:05 pm

Cheers for the advice.

The seller has PM'd me back, and I've put a bid in for the calipers. Fingers crossed! With any luck I'll be back on the road soon AND I'll be able to stop!

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Post by Doyle171 » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:22 pm

Whatever state there in you will still stop better, Good Luck :D
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Post by pinball wizard » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:03 pm

hi dee,

i just got some blue spots off ebay with the fasteners, unions & even pads for £75 inc postage. they were from a breakers called blacks bike salvage and they get LOTS of R6/R1 to break - often low miles. give them a call & see what they have. the number is 01704 897551. i'm more than happy with the condition of the ones they sent me 8) fitted them in about an hour, everything bolts straight on including the unions, etc. soooo much better than the sumi's which i had to strip every 4 months and service :x

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Re: Sodding Brakes...

Post by Max » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:33 am

Dee wrote:
1. I buy new seals, split the calipers and fit them. Having priced the seals up, it's going to cost about £80 in all for geniune Yamaha (ouch).
£80??? For seals??? That can't be right! They are less than 2,000 yen per side over here. And you don't need to split the calipers to install them.
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Post by Dee » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:26 am

Cheers for the pointer, pinball wizard. My auction finishes tomorrow, so if I'm unsuccessful, I may well give them a go. It's not as if posting anything to the Isle of Man costs any more than posting within mainland UK, so this could well be a viable option.

Max - you could have knocked me over with a feather when I was given the price! You're right, it seems way too expensive, doesn't it? The local Yamaha dealer I spoke to didn't have the part on their books there, so had to fax Yamaha UK. The details he got back was that each seal kit cost £20.26. I thought that sounded OK until I was told that I would need 2 kits for each caliper.... :-k

I gave them my thanks and told 'em I'd come back if I decided to take out a mortgage for bike parts....! :bail:

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Post by Max » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:57 am

Dee,

From the calculations I just made off the Yamaha parts list here, it's around £18 for the whole set (both calipers, 16 seal rings total). I'd have to double check but I'm pretty sure that's correct and your dealer doesn't know how to read his parts list...

If you end up wanting to rebuild, and can't get them there, it wouldn't cost much for me to just stick them in an envelope and post them. Let me know.
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Post by Dee » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:18 pm

Will do, Max. Thanks very much! :urock:

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Post by Max » Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:01 pm

Dee, did you send me a PM? Somebody did, but it didn't come through... :?
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Post by Dee » Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:07 pm

Hi Max,

Nope, not me! :dontknow:

Have won the blue spots off ebay. Yay! Just waiting for them to arrive and I may just get back on the road in time for the crappy weather! :roll:

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Post by pinball wizard » Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:33 am

Dee wrote:Have won the blue spots off ebay. Yay! Just waiting for them to arrive and I may just get back on the road in time for the crappy weather! :roll:
well done dee! =D>
the blue spots are a much better bet than serviced sumis 8)

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Post by CULater » Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:20 pm

It's not that i want to be a smartass, but the blue (and gold) spots are also made by Sumitomo :lol:

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Post by Max » Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:31 pm

Which is even funnier when you consider Yamaha owns Brembo. :lol:
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Post by Dee » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:16 pm

I've just got the calipers through this morning.

They look OK, but need a MAJOR cleanup -they've definitely been stored for a number of years, as I can see at least one dead spider nestled away!

I think I know what I'm going to be filling my evenings with this week...! :roll:

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