Locks - all the same?

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Locks - all the same?

Post by HeikkiL » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:11 pm

Long story short (just don't make me twist the knife more in my heart...): are the ignition lock, fuel tank lock and seat lock identical?

Managed to lose the only key, bike in steering lock and finally I'm also beginning to think sensibly again after cursing and crying... So if I take the fuel tank to locksmith and he manages to make a key for it, does the key work also in ignition lock? Or are the fuel tank lock and seat lock more "simpler" verions?
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Re: Locks - all the same?

Post by Red Rex » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:17 pm

Same key fits all on my bike :D
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Re: Locks - all the same?

Post by HeikkiL » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:52 pm

Red Rex wrote:Same key fits all on my bike :D
But does ignition lock have more driver pins than other two locks?
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Re: Locks - all the same?

Post by slow codger » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:51 pm

:D I think your asking about the amount of pins the key turns in the lock! The key does go further into the ignition lock than either of the other 2 on my bike, and occasionally has to be wiggled to get it to turn. All 3 locks are the same on mine.

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Re: Locks - all the same?

Post by Killerwhale » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:55 pm

Me mate got same key to all locks, i have a different one to all three...don´t know if it´s a matter of model...mine -98 and his -96...

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Re: Locks - all the same?

Post by slow codger » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:56 pm

:D Killer, I believe that they were originally all the same, however mines a 1995!

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Re: Locks - all the same?

Post by HeikkiL » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:22 pm

Yes, yes, all the locks worked with the same key but now the question is: if I make a key at locksmith using for example seat lock as pattern (no key, remember, just a lock) so does the new key work also with ignition lock?
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Re: Locks - all the same?

Post by slow codger » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:44 pm

:? Think you have said that you snapped the key in your ignition lock! Can you take that to a lock smith who can get the broken bit out and make a key to fit?

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Re: Locks - all the same?

Post by HeikkiL » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:23 pm

slow codger wrote::? Think you have said that you snapped the key in your ignition lock! Can you take that to a lock smith who can get the broken bit out and make a key to fit?
Sorry, English is not my 1st language so bear with me... :D "Managed to lose the only key" = key is lost. Steering lock is on so a bit difficult to remove the upper triple tree where the ignition lock is bolted to (guess I have to drop the front tubes to be able to release steering lock?).
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Re: Locks - all the same?

Post by slow codger » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:15 pm

:D Anyone got a spare ignition lock and key for Heikki?

(You can snap it off!! forcibly twist the bars quickly!)

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Re: Locks - all the same?

Post by Jak » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:21 pm

You're all correct in saying that one key fits all locks, but that's not quite what Heikki is asking
HeikkiL wrote:So if I take the fuel tank to locksmith and he manages to make a key for it, does the key work also in ignition lock? Or are the fuel tank lock and seat lock more "simpler" verions?
I THINK the question is ....

Is the actual lock barrel identical ... or is the ignition barrel more complex ... as in, if the locksmith can make a key based on the fuel tank lock, will the key he produces be able to work in the ignition or will it be a simple version.

Does that make sense? If so, I don't know how it can be checked ... perhaps if someone has two TRXs they could see whether the key from one will open the fuel cap on the other, if it does then the key the locksmith makes wouldn't work ... or ... scarier ... does the key from one bike start the other one? :shock:
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Re: Locks - all the same?

Post by M.V. » Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:41 am

HeikkiL wrote:
Red Rex wrote:Same key fits all on my bike :D
But does ignition lock have more driver pins than other two locks?
Yes. You will want to get your key made from the ignition, as the fuel tank & seat latch don't accept the key all the way, but the ignition does.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Locks - all the same?

Post by alextrx850 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:20 am

just a thought as the topic is on the ignition lock..does anyone know if the lable on the upper lock bezel can be renewed.??..the [ON/OFF/LOCK] sticker...mine is a little on the tatty side ..sorry to get off thread.

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Re: Locks - all the same?

Post by HeikkiL » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:18 am

M.V. wrote:
HeikkiL wrote:
Red Rex wrote:Same key fits all on my bike :D
But does ignition lock have more driver pins than other two locks?
Yes. You will want to get your key made from the ignition, as the fuel tank & seat latch don't accept the key all the way, but the ignition does.

Hope that helps.
Helped a lot, thanks! Decided to go all the way and ordered a lock set at eBay. Now thinking is it easier to deal with steering lock by drilling the ignition lock or drop front forks and that way remove upper triple tree (this way I could also save the lock and still try locksmith option). Slow Codger's "twist method" sounds a bit too rough (read: thief mode)... :D
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Re: Locks - all the same?

Post by BigAl-TC » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:22 am

If the key fits all the locks, a good locksmith should be able to make another key for you. Each lock uses a part of the key, the first part is for the seat lock, the second part is for the fuel cap and the whole key is needed for the ignition.
The only reason I know this is because Australian Motorcycle News lost there only key while they had it on test duty and they had to take the whole bike to the locksmith.
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