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squared off tyres

Post by SDN » Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:57 pm

Been doing a lot of motorway miles and my rear tyre profile looks a bit flat ( squared off ) the handling feels a bit off, back end feels a bit twitchy and it's not cornering as well - is this likely to be the tyre profile? whats the symptoms of a squred off tyre? BTW there is still a fair bit of tread on the rear Dunlop road smart

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Re: squared off tyres

Post by FNTIM » Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:52 am

SDN wrote:Been doing a lot of motorway miles and my rear tyre profile looks a bit flat ( squared off ) the handling feels a bit off, back end feels a bit twitchy and it's not cornering as well - is this likely to be the tyre profile? whats the symptoms of a squred off tyre? BTW there is still a fair bit of tread on the rear Dunlop road smart

When was the last time u checked tyre pressure ?

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Re: squared off tyres

Post by SDN » Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:57 pm

Went on the bike to work yesterday, as soon as I got on the dual carriageway it started to really piss down, it was also pitch black and I couldn't see a thing. Had a severe case of sphincter twitch what with the gusting winds as well. Turned round, came home and went in the car.

The back end just didn't feel right - anyway checked tyre today 2.4mm on rear road smart and quite squared off - so probably the reason for the dodgy feel. What do you reckon?

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Re: squared off tyres

Post by trixynut » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:55 pm

It will be exactly that.

Think of the profile of a new tyre, rolling from side to side as you lean over.

Then look at your tyre and imagine the same thing: lots of different unsmooth stems to roll over.

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Re: squared off tyres

Post by Wombat » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:59 pm

Probably more noticeable on brands like Dunlop, Bridgestone, Michelin where the tyre profile is more triangular, whereas Metzeler and Pirelli have a more rounded,flatter profile.
And squareing off doesn't seem to affect them that much. Just my 2c

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Re: squared off tyres

Post by phuk72 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:15 am

As has been said, it very much depends on the tyre profile to start with but as soon as tyres start to square off I'd be chucking them away - it's all that's keepinig you shiny side up ;)
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Re: squared off tyres

Post by phuk72 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:25 am

If you want a cheap (ish) pair of new tyres I've got some in the garage.

1 pair of Pirelli Diablos - have done 10 laps of Mallory (they are the control tyre for Desmo Due racing) - £100 ono posted to the UK

1 pair of Pirelli Diablo Super Corsa. Although these may not be the best for motorway sue ;) - £90 ono posted to the UK
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Re: squared off tyres

Post by fung » Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:00 pm

phuk72 wrote:As has been said, it very much depends on the tyre profile to start with but as soon as tyres start to square off I'd be chucking them away - it's all that's keepinig you shiny side up ;)
bad enough having a bike that weaves, let alone side to side rocking, following road irregularities etc.
make you seasick wouldn't it? :sad4:
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Re: squared off tyres

Post by SDN » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:37 pm

Cheers chaps I was getting a bit windy, going from a bike that handled really well, that I had every confidence in to this was a bit worrying. As I do quite a long commute I may try the new Dunlop Roadsmart 2's or possible try some stickier sportsmarts?? I have done over 6,000 miles on the set of Roadsmarts I have on the bike now, which is pretty damn good. Still suggestions welcom as I want the unachievable ideal - good grip and milage

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Re: squared off tyres

Post by trixynut » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:34 pm

Although these may not be the best for motorway sue
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Roadsmart 2 seem to be the popular choice at the moment.

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Re: squared off tyres

Post by phuk72 » Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:52 am

Motorway Sue - lol
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Re: squared off tyres

Post by SDN » Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:32 am

Took bike out the garage - guess what front puncture! Went for my tyres, the garage had no Road smarts, so got some Michelin road Pilot 3's, been told these are v good tyres. Went to fit them everything OK but then found RHS wheel aduster bolt totally seized in YZF swing arm! Tried loads of WD40 - any ideas

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Re: squared off tyres

Post by alextrx850 » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:54 pm

corrosion must be a real problem over your way, listening to the comments on removeing the headders....sheeesh
Your yzr rear will be as you know alloy and the bolt steel, so its only the penetrating oil that will help...[ ELECTROLISIS ]
Cant NOT imagine spraying the bike [carefully, an old bed sheet over the tyres ] on a regular basis....even for me over here in OZ.

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Re: squared off tyres

Post by trixynut » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:41 am

No magic trick to sorting this one really, just the usual: penetrating oil (i prefer 3in1 to WD40), a good fitting spanner maybe with a small extension bar and some GENTLE heat on the bolt to ease in the oil.
Be careful of the bifferent metal types though like alex says.
Gonna be difficult to get penetrating oil to run uphill into the thread though if the swinger is still in the bike. Be easier with it out, but thats a ball-ache.
The last thing you wanna do is round anything off or worse still, snap anything off.

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Re: squared off tyres

Post by SDN » Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:31 pm

Success, dropped the wheel out and was able to get hex 3/8 socket on offending rounded off seized bolt. Slowly took it out add ing plenty of pentrating oil and it came out. Retapped the thread and fitted new adjuster with plenty of copper slip. Then just as was finishing dropped the bike on it's side - crash bungs helped, but broke mini indicator and new clutch lever - Bollox

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