Excessive Tinking on Cooldown

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Re: Excessive Tinking on Cooldown

Post by cobbadiggabuddyblooo » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:16 pm

just one strainer..its a 2 into 1 and yes thats with it inplace
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Re: Excessive Tinking on Cooldown

Post by bagmaker » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:03 am

dude check your negative battey terminal -my loose lead caused a tacho dance once
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Re: Excessive Tinking on Cooldown

Post by Dav » Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:05 am

bagmaker wrote:dude check your negative battey terminal -my loose lead caused a tacho dance once
sure thing, will do that, thanks 8) ATM I lock it down reading 4K...and then after 10 mins of hard use the dance begins. The base plate is secure.

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Re: Excessive Tinking on Cooldown

Post by Con Rod » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:06 am

i had a similar problem. It took ages to get the TPS set up right, I would get it sorted then go for a ride and after about 10mins it would start dancing again. Ended up replacing the TPS.

You can test your TPS using a multi-metre, the manual tells you how.

If you do go down the route of replacing the TPS Yamaha charge a whopping $330, however cheaper ones can be got from Suzuki and a few other bikes share the same TPS.

If calling a wreckers dont ask for one for a Yamaha, ask for one from a Suzuki (wrecker rule of tumb is price at 50% of original price and original Suzuki is cheaper than Yamaha....yes for the same part)

Also keep an eye out for wiring looms, could be cheaper to buy a loom with the TPS attached. I ended up getting a loom from a FJR1200 with the TPS still attached from a wreckers for $50

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Re: Excessive Tinking on Cooldown

Post by Dav » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:12 pm

Cheers Paul...good to know. IIRC the bandit ones work also. I've already swapped the tps once. I did what bagmaker suggested and cranked down the -ve terminal...seems to have sorted the issue out for now at least 8)

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Re: Excessive Tinking on Cooldown

Post by cobbadiggabuddyblooo » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:10 pm

but the tps was working when back on your std carbs..yes??? it's only when bolted onto the FCR's... this is the issue I found with mine,thats why i just bypassed it..
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Re: Excessive Tinking on Cooldown

Post by Dav » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:37 pm

cobbadiggabuddyblooo wrote:but the tps was working when back on your std carbs..yes??? it's only when bolted onto the FCR's... this is the issue I found with mine,thats why i just bypassed it..
Yep...it's working fine on the mik's. Seems stable enough now but I've the bypass mod bookmarked if it starts acting up 8)

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Re: Excessive Tinking on Cooldown

Post by Excalibre » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:05 am

Regarding the TPS, I have a theory:

The TPS shaft on the FCR's is a spring-loaded arrangement, unlike the solid shaft on the original carbs.
It seemed to me that the FCR TPS shaft was prone to sticking a bit. I suspect that the process of fitting the TPS onto the shaft exacerbated the issue as the short shaft didn't seem to slide easily into the TPS, and I suspect that the assembly was pressing up against the carb body.

I found that when adjusting it, I'd get it right but if I tapped the TPS or carb body it'd go out of adjustment.

The answer....lubrication!

I smeared some light oil on the shaft so that it could slide easily and settle into place inside the TPS. I also squirted a small ammount of light oil (Innox)around where the shaft goes through the carb body. This seems to have solved the sticking problem.
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Re: Excessive Tinking on Cooldown

Post by Dav » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:15 am

Interesting. It's gotta be something like that. Weird how in my case the tacho dance begins only after 10 or so mins riding. :?

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Re: Excessive Tinking on Cooldown

Post by Mincehead » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:49 am

Excalibre wrote:Regarding the TPS, I have a theory:

The TPS shaft on the FCR's is a spring-loaded arrangement, unlike the solid shaft on the original carbs.
It seemed to me that the FCR TPS shaft was prone to sticking a bit. I suspect that the process of fitting the TPS onto the shaft exacerbated the issue as the short shaft didn't seem to slide easily into the TPS, and I suspect that the assembly was pressing up against the carb body.

I found that when adjusting it, I'd get it right but if I tapped the TPS or carb body it'd go out of adjustment.

The answer....lubrication!

I smeared some light oil on the shaft so that it could slide easily and settle into place inside the TPS. I also squirted a small ammount of light oil (Innox)around where the shaft goes through the carb body. This seems to have solved the sticking problem.
Yes it does indeed, `hang up` a tad if not lubricated periodically, I found this too and also found one of the best things to lubricate it with is ACF50. :wink:
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Re: Excessive Tinking on Cooldown

Post by Dav » Wed May 09, 2012 6:27 am

followup after a lovely holiday in Carns/Daintree: I lubed my shaft (phoarr) and it seems rock solid (pffffffffft) now. :lol:
Interestingly the 4K mark was hit with the tps almost all the way clockwise this time but I'm leaving well enough alone. Thanks for the tip chaps 8)

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Re: Excessive Tinking on Cooldown

Post by Excalibre » Wed May 09, 2012 11:29 am

Sometimes things just go better with lubrication :-")
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