wobbling handlebars....

Post by **Max** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:54 pm

I'd go with Pirelli Diablos (120/70 front) or the equivalent Metzler (if there is one...).

Don't try to put anything wider than a 170 on the stock 5" rear rim. A 160 would be fine, they used to offer a 170 in the Dragon Evo series that I liked.

H1 · Post by H1 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:03 pm

Hi!

First choise: Michelin Pilot Power ... or Metzeler M3
ready for "TRX-regular" use and also able to get some track days!

Front 120/70
Rear 160/60

Best handling and much fun

(also nice: Pirelli Supercorsa... but u will need much oftener a new pair

)

Ciao!

Heinz

Edit: IÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´ve tried once Bridgestone BT010 ... donÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t like it... "stand up effect" on braking... the BTÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s 010/020 now are to old for my mind... the other brands has got newer technology inside!!!

burty · Post by **burty** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:26 pm

I used to love Bridgestone 020s, until I tried something else.

Never liked 010s.

I've got Michelin Pilot Road fitted and I love them. Mind you they are rock hard.

Michelin now have launched the Pilot Road 2, according to my Tyre bloke these are fantastic. I'd be tempted by them next time.

I also love the Diablos on my Tuono, but they last half the distance, but they feel soft so you feel like you're getting something back for that.

[JP] · Post by **[JP]** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:44 pm

And are those tyres any good with rain?

I have used the BT020 for the last 2 years and so far I'm really happy.. Good on dry, good on wet..and I can get 9K miles out of a rear one

Post by **phuk72** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:15 pm

Given that decent wear and wet weather preformance seem to be your most important factors and you like 020s I would stick with them.

Personally I hate 020s and fail to understand why everyone raves about them but that's me

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:45 pm

Don't try to put anything wider than a 170 on the stock 5" rear rim. A 160 would be fine, they used to offer a 170 in the Dragon Evo series that I liked.

If you want wide try a D209 (qualifier rear) the 160/60 17 is actually
178mm wide, so was the last one and the D208 before it.
Will go with the Diablo next as i havent had those before and they seem
to get a generally good reviews on the TRX.
Dave

Post by **Jak** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:41 pm

I had 010s on and was never totally happy - put Diablos on last year and they're brilliant.

steve speed · Post by **steve speed** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:50 pm

i have just fitted some diablo front and rear and they feel great 120/60/17 and 160/60/17 but would they have been better at the 70 profile ?? does anybody know ?

H1 · Post by H1 » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:39 pm

Hi JP!

One question,

"And are those tyres any good with rain?"

one answer: Michelin Pilot Power you wonÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t find a better choise even in wet conditions !!!

Pirelli is fantastic in dry conditions... but wet conditions ...

The performance over all conditions of Michelin Pilot Power will be titeld "King of the ring"

at my mind

http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front ... 47&lang=EN

Performance overview:
http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front ... 38&lang=EN

There are lots of german friends on TRX... many of them are also roaring on the Pilot Power and they are all very confident to the performance...

But in the present day i would like to say: actually there are no more real bad rubber...

Make your choise

Ciao!

Heinz

Edit:

tip fpr low budget: iÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´ ve tried this new brand (in germay new...) front 120/65, 120/70 and rear 160/60, 170/60 its brand "MAXXIS Supermax..." not signed for the racetrack... but regular road u can get much fun... in germany the pair costs average 200,- ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ the Pilots would change the owner for average 250,- ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬... but the MAXXIS not able to run long runs on the track... but iÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´ve tried also

works not so bad... still amazing with good feedback for the limits

u will recognice

But itÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s nothing without control

It works also fine...

Maxxis works fantastic even in really wet condition... for daily use a very good choise for low costs! No stand up on the brake ... amazing

But now i will get back my Pilots

burty · Post by **burty** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:48 pm

Max wrote:I'd go with Pirelli Diablos (120/70 front) or the equivalent Metzler (if there is one...).

I think that the Metzeler Sportec M-1 is the equivalent

Quan-Time · Post by **Quan-Time** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:04 am

TRX is different with tyres, mainly cos the bike is a bit heavier up the front than other sports bikes.. This will cause "tank slap" or steering wobble.

Tyres are good on some, shit on others,, seems pilot powers on TRX is the way to go..

Personally i just put on a steering damper and worked a treat... but each to their own..

I use 020's currently, quite happy with them.. But im gonna try pilot powers next time. SOO many ppl rave about em.

[JP] · Post by **[JP]** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:13 am

Quan time - what tyre size are you using? and when using the BT020 did you still have the wobbling problems before fitting the damper?

I also have notice yesterday going home that this seems to happen at different speeds...

Like.. I accelarate to maybe 60mph......it wobbles, then the speed comes down...stops wobbling maybe between 50mph and 30mph....and then wobbles again....is this what happens to you guys too?

Post by **phuk72** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:03 pm

Quan-Time wrote:TRX is different with tyres, mainly cos the bike is a bit heavier up the front than other sports bikes.. This will cause "tank slap" or steering wobble.

Nonsense

For starters the weight distributon on the TRX is no different to many other sports bikes and, if the bike was heavier up front, this would greatly reduce the possibility of headshake.

Secondly, tank slap and the steering wobble we are talking about here are 2 completely different things. Proper tank slappers (not a little wiggle of the bars) is primarily due to steering geometry and not by weight distribution.

You do not need a steering damper for a TRX.

JP - are your wheels balanced correctly?

HolerTogni · Post by **HolerTogni** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:35 pm

Hi [JP]!

My experiences with shimmy (handle bar wobbling) and tires / headset bearing are:

So far I have been using three pairs of BT020 in 120/70 and 170/60 (and were very happy with them); but as the front tire wore out on its sides (but not earlier!) the shimmy began around 80 km/h (on overrun conditions) with hands removed from the handle bars.

In the last weeks of last season I changed to Michelin Pilot Power in 120/60 and 160/60 (BTW no really noticeable difference in handling for me - maybe even a little more agile now).

But at the end of last season when I had my TRiXie on the front stand I noticed my headset bearing was pretty worn out - the previous owner must have overtightened it (but never noticed it while driving).

During winter I had my Yamaha workshop let mount a new headset bearing (and overhaul my front end) and the mechanic said with the new headset bearing a little shimmy could come up - what I can not really believe.

So I can't wait to see how she behaves now with the Pilot Powers and the new headset bearings.

twolfe · Post by **twolfe** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:10 pm

I'm with PHUK on this one, sounds a touch like wheel balance. Of course there is the obvious solution, hang on to the bars.